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UN Workers Killed by Afghan Mob After Psycho Pastor Burns Koran

Terry Jones has blood on his hands

Charles Johnson
World • Fri Apr 1, 2011 at 1:15 pm PDT • Views: 3,752

Psycho hate preacher Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, carried through on his threat to burn a Koran recently.
And today, at least seven United Nations workers are dead in northern Afghanistan, after an enraged mob stormed the UN compound.

Charles Johnson, it wasn't so many years ago that you'd've blamed the Mullahs for inciting easily-swayed idiots to such reactive outbursts.

You, Charles Johnson, are not much better than the Mullahs who killed these UN workers. You are just another who influences stupid followers. You've a flock of 'em.

What should, no must, happen is a reformation of the Islamic faith; to make it less volatile, and take the easily-manipulated 'hate' away from that religion. Reform happened to Christianity; it MUST happen to Islam, or we will eventually have to force it to happen.

There will be blood, if that's the case.

h/t memorandum

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A three-page article, written to support the Park51 "Ground Zero Mosque" by attacking Ms. Geller. Oh, and to draw out the New York Times' audience of lefty commentators and allow them to revile Pamela Geller in the comments. Of course they rise to the occasion.

Response from Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs. You go, girl.

I left a comment at NYT. Only a few of my comments get published, we'll see...

Typical hatred-filled responses from New Yorkers I see. Your city was attacked by whom again? Can you even remember? Do you care?

Let's have a compromise. You 'haters' try to persuade the world's Muslims to allow a Cathedral and a Synagogue to be built in Mecca and Medina. After that conversation, if you dare to have it, I'll gladly turn a jaundiced eye toward Robert Spencer and Ms. Geller. Until then, you've no right to throw slurs and verbally stone a woman for taking a strong position in what she truly believes.

If that comment is published, it'll be the only one supportive of Pamela Geller on the page.

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Hold the presses...I just found another major lefty newspaper attacking Pamela Geller, London's Guardian...

An Observer investigation has established that the EDL has made contact with anti-jihad groups within the Tea Party organisation and has invited a senior US rabbi and Tea Party activist to London this month. Rabbi Nachum Shifren, a regular speaker at Tea Party conventions, will speak about Sharia law and also discuss funding issues.

The league has also developed links with Pamela Geller, who was influential in the protests against plans to build an Islamic cultural centre near Ground Zero. Geller, darling of the Tea Party's growing anti-Islamic wing, is advocating an alliance with the EDL. The executive director of the Stop Islamisation of America organisation, she recently met EDL leaders in New York and has defended the group's actions, despite a recent violent march in Bradford.

Geller, who denies being anti-Muslim, said in one of her blogs: "I share the EDL's goals… We need to encourage rational, reasonable groups that oppose the Islamisation of the west."

Devin Burghart, vice-president of the Kansas-based Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights, said: "Geller is acting as the bridge between the EDL and the Tea Party. She plays an important role in bringing Islamophobia into the Tea Party. Her stature has increased substantially inside the Tea Party ranks after the Ground Zero mosque controversy. She has gained a lot of credibility with that stuff."

Seems there are lines being drawn; two 'major' news organizations on two continents working together, attacking a common 'enemy' on the same day.

I'm not in Pamela Geller's camp by choice. You won't find a link in my sidebar to Atlas Shrugs, or many posts written referencing her posted here. But I've always admired Robert Spencer, linked him several times.

But I share her revulsion for the Left, and decry their attacks on her for purely partisan reasons.

And I've said countless times that Islam the religion is overdue for a remake and an update to 21st century thinking. Christianity was reformed centuries ago. Force Islam to reform, so's it's not so susceptible to being used by extremist Imams and Ayatollahs and people like Bin Laden. Once that's done, they'll be no need for the Pamela Gellers and Robert Spencers of the world.

I think we'll need 'em for centuries more, if rags like the NYT and the Guardian slither to side with the forces of jihad and encroaching Shariah Law.

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The Rolling Stone mag article causing all the fuss comes out Friday. It's written by leftist 'journalist' Michael Hastings, who has a history of true left-slant (he blogs at TrueSlant, alongside such illuminating nut jobs as Charles Johnson and Barrett Brown, and contributes to GQ, The Washington Post, The Daily Beast, Slate, Salon, Foreign Policy, the L.A. Times, and other publications of known mostly leftist bent, if that tells you anything). Hastings, in fine gossipy form, relates how Gen. McChrystal and some of his staff offer pointed commentary on "Bite Me" Joe Biden and other senior Obama-appointed civilian staffers who are overseeing the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan...

In the profile, author Michael Hastings writes that McChrystal and his staff had imagined ways of dismissing Vice President Joe Biden with a one-liner as they prepared for a question-and-answer session in Paris, France, in April. The general had grown tired of questions about Biden since earlier dismissing a counterterrorism strategy the vice president had offered.

"'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?'" Hastings writes.

"'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?'"

The article goes on to paint McChrystal as a man who "has managed to piss off almost everyone with a stake in the conflict," including U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, Special Representative to Afghanistan Richard Holbrooke and National Security Adviser Jim Jones.

Of Eikenberry, who railed against McChrystal's strategy in Afghanistan in a cable leaked to The New York Times in January, the general said, "'Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say, "I told you so.'"

Hastings writes in the profile that McChrystal has a "special skepticism" for Holbrooke, the official in charge of reintegrating Taliban members into Afghan society.

"At one point on his trip to Paris, McChrystal checks his BlackBerry. 'Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke,' he groans. 'I don't even want to open it.' He clicks on the message and reads the salutation out loud, then stuffs the BlackBerry back in his pocket, not bothering to conceal his annoyance."

Imagine that, Gen. McChrystal annoyed at something an Obama-appointed Democrat sycophant has to say. Democrats that Obama appoints don't win wars; instead, it seems that they undercut the military every chance they get. See: Gays in the Military.

Michael Hastings is an instrument of that undercutting. Look no further than his May 21 True-Leftist-Slant piece, "The Army is a 24-Hour Gay Joke"...

The homophobia in the military is akin to the homophobia in locker rooms or frat houses. The reason the military won’t allow in gays is the same reason we don’t know what professional athletes are gay. It’s not part of the culture. In this kind of atmosphere, you find the type of language that you get when you isolate a bunch of dudes in testerone scented quarters. Jokingly, I’ve seen soldiers sit on each others laps, pretend to blow kisses and then some, while continually make sexually suggestive comments to one another. On one embed, the soldiers showed me a video of another solider touching the penis of a donkey. (I won’t name the unit, but it could have been a bad YouTube hit.)

The humor is not meant as malicious, I don’t think, and these are on the whole good guys. It’s just what gets joked about. Call it barracks humor, or call it an homoerotic environment.

Listen, Michael Hastings, you asshole, your girlish, churlish, kiss'n'tell bedtime-story gossip column-style writings aren't helping win this war, not even a little bit. You should stay home and play house with your Nasty Old Sluts.

This is a comment I posted at PW. There's a lot of background involved, if you're not understanding what's happening, then read the thread (all 755 comments). Or not. I won't link Barrett Brown's screed, either; if you want to read it, g00gle will be your friend.

Come on in, 'timmah'. I'm tiring of batting around my local troll, he's becoming a bit boring.

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I just finished reading Barrett Brown’s (aka “Barriticus” .. no kidding, that’s his Photobucket screen name) cry-me-a-river whine-fest screed, and his Daily Kos diary. From what deep well of sorrowful bitterness and envy does “Barriticus” get the nerve to question PW’s comment section when he’s a lapdog diarist in the most bunkered-down and nassty, evil, under-bridge-troll-minded blog on the planet? Remember Daily Kos’ diarists’ reactions after the death of Tony Snow? Has anyone tried to post there who’s not of their full-metal-straight-jacketed mindset, and kept their account? For shame, Barret Brown. That KOS membership sullys any thing else you post anywhere (yes, Sullys, as in Andrew).

“Barriticus” tries to posit a link between the coming “new” world wide internet, one that’s no longer controlled by the US, a tenuous argument at best; he lamely suggests that the rest of the world’s opinions of the U.S.A will be changed and damaged by exposure to PW’s commenters. As if every other person on the planet with internet access is suddenly going to descend on any blog and delve into reading the comments. I know I do every day, don’t you? I especially enjoy reading those political blogs in China, where we find comments from the heart and soul of the free and happy populace.

Even is there was such a worldwide descent into blogger’s comments as Barrett imagines, then “Barriticus” might concern himself with his own meager comment section, which now features the creature timb, “timmah”, who was dwarf-tossed out of PW hundreds of times and still pathetically crawls around the blogs looking to trash Jeff G. That’s some unrequited love poor timmah is caught up in.

Timmah found a person with whom to share his pinings in the whining poison-pen posted by “Barriticus”.

You two girls pass notes and giggle behind your hands now, you hear? As a couple of billet-doux twisted sisters.

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More Charles Johnson news. He's been down-dinged by Pajamas Media.

Oh, this, from an ad, seen by happyfeet, running on The Atlantic. 'feets was kind enough to link it; I don't see ads (Thanks!, Adblock Plus for Firefox!).



Uggggh. This might be a series, where people get bored. Or something.

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It's all over for Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs. His descent into madness is finally complete; finally, most mainstream bloggers realize that there's been something amiss at Little Green Footballs for years now.

Robert Stacy McCain's put Charles in his place. You'll have to read his post. Warning...there's ruthlessness involved. Savory ruthlessness, it's what's for dinner.

(Oh, and remind yourself not to ever get on the wrong side of RSM!)

UPDATE: I'd forgotten this. Date night with James Wolcott.

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OK, I've saved some hilarity from the Memory Hole.

Some leftists put up a site, ostensibly to 'save' Van Jone's job from evil rethuglican reich-wingers (h/t Ace's commentators). Some of these 'signatories' are hilarious.

Someone said that many of these signatures (that were still living in my cache) were being trashed by the site owners, and lamented that they were heading for the memory hole. I saved them, for whatever reason.

(NOTE: some of these comments contain RACIST!!!!111!1!!!!111!! stuff that I'm not responsible for. I am NOT a racist. I oppose Obama because and solely for the reason that his leftist thoughts and deeds are truly repugnant to me. Of course, Leftists use the RACIST!!11!! label because that's their only recourse when confronted with what are clear and concise facts opposing anything Obama (or any Leftist philosophies) have to offer. It's easier to slam a straw man than to face the fact that Leftivism (be it fascism or socialism) is detrimental to the U.S.A.'s forward progress.

That said, here's the saved petition comments...

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SUPPORT VAN JONES

Skip Mendler, Wayne County (PA) Green Party Committee
Van Jones, author of Green Collar Economy
and presently Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council
on Environmental Quality, has come under concerted and withering fire
from the paranoid wing of the Republican Party, including commentators like Glenn Beck.

We the undersigned urge President Obama to resist calls for Jones'
removal. It would be a tragedy if such a visionary yet practical man as
Van Jones were to be hounded out of office by lies, distortions, and
innuendo. Stick by him, defend him, and make it clear to these
right-wing bullies that such tactics as theirs are doomed to failure.

Van Jones, author of Green Collar Economy
and presently Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council
on Environmental Quality, has come under concerted and withering fire
from the paranoid wing of the Republican Party, including commentators like Glenn Beck.

We the undersigned urge President Obama to resist calls for Jones'
removal. It would be a tragedy if such a visionary yet practical man as
Van Jones were to be hounded out of office by lies, distortions, and
innuendo. Stick by him, defend him, and make it clear to these
right-wing bullies that such tactics as theirs are doomed to failure.

95 signatures!

sign petition!

# 95: 6:41 pm PDT, Sep 4, Frank Stallone, California
Everyone is always Sly did this, Sly did that. He's a big celebrity. Everywhere I go people say "hey, are you Sly's brother?". I'm sick of it!!!! I made a movie. I made a music video. It's time to even things up a bit and give Frank Stallone what he deserves too. It's time to spread the wealth around. I want what he has!!! I've tried everything else and nothing works. We need more true red commies like yourself, Van Jones. It's not fair!

# 94: 6:41 pm PDT, Sep 4, Plenty O'Toole, California
Why yes, yes I was named after my father.

# 93: 6:35 pm PDT, Sep 4, Jackson Gillman, Maine
We desperately need charismatic and effective visionaries like Van Jones.

# 92:6:33 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ted Kennedy, Massachusetts
Er, ah, I would like to take this guy for a drive sometime. Oh wait, I'm dead. Forget I said that.

# 91: 6:23 pm PDT, Sep 4, Queen Victoria, United Kingdom
We are not amused by the obviously fake names on this petition

# 90: 6:12 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ivanna Tinckle, Georgia
Hang in there, Van. Communism is always the best alternative to individual responsibility.

# 89: 6:00 pm PDT, Sep 4, Wharton Burriss, New York

# 88: 5:56 pm PDT, Sep 4, Al Gore, Zimbabwe
Don't fire Van. We need folks like him to turn America into Zimbabwe. It's wonderful here; I wouldn't lie.

# 87: 5:44 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ronnie Wickers, Illinois
This is an angry black man who doesn't belong in public service. It's time to stop blaming whitey.

# 86: 5:40 pm PDT, Sep 4, Founding Fathers, Maryland
You suck, Mr. Jones. We hate your racist, Communist, America-hating Hellish Whore of a Soul and we will come back and piss fire into your eyes. You make us sick!

# 85: 5:36 pm PDT, Sep 4, Sharmuta Johnson, California
I think Van Jones is the best thing since the glass crack pipe. PS: Charles, I love you!

# 83: [RACIST!!!! -ed.]

# 81: [RACIST!!!! -ed.]

# 80: 5:18 pm PDT, Sep 4, Yuran Azzbag, Michigan
I come from Communist country. I hear you in trouble. It was Beck, no? That big trouble maker! I really wish your boycott shut him up. I too want America to turn Communist and go, like you say, broke. I like what ur president is doing making America socialist and weak. I very glad president put America hating goon like you as czar for green jobs. Maybe one day I come to America and you get me green job?

# 79: 5:16 pm PDT, Sep 4, Schwinn McRidesalot, California
For more impact, add a personal comment here

# 78: 5:11 pm PDT, Sep 4, CharlesJohnson's Bycicle Seat, Virginia
Someone please shoot me. Please I am begging you end my pain.

# 77: 5:10 pm PDT, Sep 4, Michelle Obama, Washington D.C.
Oh mah goodness! y'all better watchu say. Don't be trippin about a brutha' you broke-ass cracka' motherfucka honky-ass beyotches. Van Jones is MY man on the side. He gives me the kind of fisting no one can, not even that knucklehead highyella goatfuka Barack. Hey Barack ! Newsflash! I'm ridin' this mandingo behind your back, and I take it in the back!

# 76: 5:09 pm PDT, Sep 4, George Soros, Washington D.C.
If we are ever gonna defeat capitalism and Free Markets we need to keep people like comrade Jones in power.

# 75: 5:09 pm PDT, Sep 4, Martin Luther King, Florida
I had a dream Van, but damn son you a nightmare!

# 74: 5:04 pm PDT, Sep 4, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Illinois
G*d Damn America!

# 73: 5:04 pm PDT, Sep 4, Roxanna Mayer, Texas
Stay strong, Van! The longer you are with the administration, the more it stinks! Your hate mongering, racist, ignorant commie butt is making the admin smell worse by the minute! WOOO 2010 midterms YEAH!

# 72:
5:00 pm PDT, Sep 4, Cynthia McKinney, Washington D.C.
Van I love you. You din really wanna marry dat white biotch. I know you love me too.

# 71:
4:58 pm PDT, Sep 4, Sharmuta Bigbootay, Alabama
My lizard master commands. I must support Van Jones. Van Jones is good. Van Jones is right. Van Jones is sexy. All hail the Van Jones.
# 70: 4:56 pm PDT, Sep 4, Name not displayed, Florida

# 69: 4:56 pm PDT, Sep 4, Russ Theidiotinmassachusetts, Massachusetts

# 68: 4:53 pm PDT, Sep 4, Hugh G. Rection, Maryland
I feel that Van Jones and myself have a great deal in common. I'm a dick, and so is he.

# 67: 4:48 pm PDT, Sep 4, Mullah Omar, Afghanistan

# 66: 4:45 pm PDT, Sep 4, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Illinois
I fully support Van Jones and all his beliefs! The Man has a long history of taking my innocent statements and associations out of context too. If Whitey succeeds in getting his tossed aside, I will gladly come out of retirement and fill his place. GOD DAMN AMERIKKKA!!!

# 65: 4:42 pm PDT, Sep 4, Hugh Jass, Washington D.C.
Please Obama! Do not replace this crack pot. Based on your previous actions I'm afraid you'll just appoint an even nuttier crank.

# 64: 4:40 pm PDT, Sep 4, John Morris, Texas
Mr President, please do not let the crazies take control of our government. We need Mr. Jones in the position he's in.

# 63: 4:39 pm PDT, Sep 4, Jack Meoff, Florida
Anytime you want my fellow commie brotha.

# 62: 4:38 pm PDT, Sep 4, Chris Bores, Ohio
I support you in your efforts, Van Jones. I'm impressed by your cribbing of the notes of Lenin and Marx, just like I do in my game reviews. After all, a logo, and some plagiarism, can do a long way.

# 61: 4:36 pm PDT, Sep 4, Yous ZaBitch, Indiana
I support our leftward march into the dustbin of history.

# 60: 4:35 pm PDT, Sep 4, Imma Pinko, Texas
I'm so mad, my face is all red! Support your local commie!

# 59: 4:34 pm PDT, Sep 4, Jordan Taylor, Pennsylvania

# 58: 4:34 pm PDT, Sep 4, Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia
Hmhnr. *COUGH* I'm amdnahmrmrmr. Justice! harmarmmhr.

# 57: 4:32 pm PDT, Sep 4, Anna Rexick, Texas
After I got the skinny on the situation I really think you gave me something to chew on. But your chances of being a fat cat are slim.

# 56: 4:29 pm PDT, Sep 4, Bill Eemick, Texas
This whole thing makes me want to puke.

# 55: 4:24 pm PDT, Sep 4, Dan Knickelbein, Illinois
President Obama, Van Jones is the type of leader we need in the White House. Don't give in to Fox News. Keep Van in the White House!

# 54: 4:24 pm PDT, Sep 4, Rosie O'Donnell, California
Van knows that fire doesn't melt steel! It's a proven fact!

# 53: 4:21 pm PDT, Sep 4, Tess Tickles, Texas
This man has got some balls. Too bad they're in his mouth.

# 52: 4:19 pm PDT, Sep 4, Charles Johnson, Pennsylvania
I really meant to sign it this time, just like Van Jones did with the truther petition. Sorry about deleting #30...

# 51: 4:18 pm PDT, Sep 4, Eric von Zipper, California
Annette and Frankie would be so proud of you! Keep the faith, comrade

# 50: 4:17 pm PDT, Sep 4, RICHARD CLEVENGER, Texas
VAN JONES EXPRESSES THE FACTS AS THEY ARE. HE IS A GREAT MAN. WE NEED TO SUPPORT VAN JONES.

# 49: 4:10 pm PDT, Sep 4, Richard Tratior, Texas
Don't let the right destroy what we voted for! That will make me sad to think that the change that we can believe in will be poisoned forever.After-all,we are all Communists now,lets not give up comrades!Whew-hu!!!!!We are the winners now!!..!!Go into the wind like a unicorn and fly above the meanness..because we are the ones that matter now!!

# 48: 4:01 pm PDT, Sep 4, Heinrich Himmler, Germany
go finish what I started

# 47: 3:58 pm PDT, Sep 4, Roxanne Pauline, Pennsylvania
We need to keep our course and stand strong in our decisions. The antics of the right has to stop distracting us from what is the correct coarse of action this country.

# 46: 3:54 pm PDT, Sep 4, Vladmir Putin, Russian Federation
You're doin' great Van. Soon I'll be able to cut the KGB's budget thanks to your efforts

# 45: 3:53 pm PDT, Sep 4, I.P. Freely, California
because ebonics speaking, wannabe intelligentsia, cop killer supporting, racist commies just just need a hug. Or a 2x4 upside the head.

# 44: 3:51 pm PDT, Sep 4, Matt Damon Kalifornia, Texas
Matt Damon! I'm Matt Damon

# 43: 3:45 pm PDT, Sep 4, Name not displayed, Louisiana
I support you 110%, keep up the good work on voicing the TRUTH, something everyone obviously cannot and will not ever understand...... I wish there were many more Van Jones's out there.

# 42: 3:42 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ted Kennedy, Washington D.C.
I agree with you, Van Jones. Don't let your support of a murderous ideology or your attempt to lower living standards via "green fascism" drive you away from the White House. Hell, I once drowned a woman and was traitor to my country and still I was a Senator for over 30 years! Stay in, Van!

# 41: 3:42 pm PDT, Sep 4, Sally IsNuts, Massachusetts
For more impact, add a personal comment here

# 40: 3:38 pm PDT, Sep 4, Fidel Castro, Cuba
I like what I see Mr. Van Jones. If things don't work out for you in the northlands, we may have a wonderful opportunity for you here in Havana. Raul needs a strongarmed true blooded commie such as yourself looking over his shoulder. He's a little too weak for my taste, but he's still learning.

# 39: 3:37 pm PDT, Sep 4, Sally Huntington, Massachusetts
Van Jones is an American Hero..please don't let the crazy right wing keep him for doing good work for the people.

# 38: 3:36 pm PDT, Sep 4, Peter Dragon, North Dakota

# 37: 3:33 pm PDT, Sep 4, Mike Littoris, Massachusetts
supports you too

# 36: 3:33 pm PDT, Sep 4, Doawanna Adadicktomy, California
You really should stand up for GREEN adadicktomys!

# 35: 3:33 pm PDT, Sep 4, Doawanna Adadicktomy, California
You really should stand up for GREEN adadicktomys!

# 34: 3:29 pm PDT, Sep 4, Karl Marx, Mississippi
Keep up the great work my Komrade Van!!

# 33: 3:26 pm PDT, Sep 4, Dick Tater, Venezuela

# 32: 3:18 pm PDT, Sep 4, Abida Diwan, Florida
Ignore the Republicans--everyday they find a new way to attack.

# 31: 3:10 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ima Goner, Ohio
One of my stallar moments..."You've never seen a Columbine done by a black child. Never. They always say, 'We can't believe it happened here. We can't believe it's these suburban white kids.' It's only them. Now, a black kid might shoot another black kid. He's not going to shoot up the whole school." - Van Jones

# 29: 3:08 pm PDT, Sep 4, Buster Cherry, New York
:)~

# 28: 3:07 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ben Dover, North Carolina
I love you Van Jones! Don't let da white man tear you down and get you all wee-weed up. Word up. Peace.

# 27: 3:07 pm PDT, Sep 4, Vladimer Lennin, Russian Federation
As communists and truthers we have to stick together.

# 26: 3:04 pm PDT, Sep 4, Charlie Rangel, New York
Welcome to Washington Van! Need help with your taxes buddy? Why do white people hate us black people who cheat taxes, support communism, and who are radical?! My advice Van, just play the race card. I am sure you were about to do that anyways! LMAO

# 25: 3:04 pm PDT, Sep 4, Rose E. Palmer, Idaho
Don't trust Whitey! And remember, Obama's half white, so watch out for that bus he be drivin'.

# 24: 3:02 pm PDT, Sep 4, Hugh Jardon, Texas
Green is the new Red. "Give them the wealth, Give them the wealth!"

# 23: 2:57 pm PDT, Sep 4, The Borg, Russian Federation
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a61fPIgJfgs Van Jones...come join us! Resistance is futile!

# 22: 2:54 pm PDT, Sep 4, Gene Tagle, Pennsylvania
Yeah, dont let the truth that Glenn Beck is saying get you down Van. So what is you are a radical, revolutionary, communist/marxist? I dont understand why someone would have a problem with you in the White House. So what if you want to crap on the Constitution!

# 21: 2:51 pm PDT, Sep 4, Karl Marx, California
Van Jones for Supreme Leader

# 20: 2:48 pm PDT, Sep 4, Gene Tagle, Pennsylvania
Keep a good man on the job. Do not let Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, or other right-wing obstructionist hate purveyors intimidate you.

# 19: 2:48 pm PDT, Sep 4, Adolf Hitler, Illinois
Mr. Van Jones is my type of guy! Me, Adolf Hitler gives Van Jones two thumbs up!

# 18: 2:45 pm PDT, Sep 4, Blyden Potts, Pennsylvania

# 17: 2:41 pm PDT, Sep 4, Y.T. Gilt, Illinois
You can always count on me!

# 16: 2:41 pm PDT, Sep 4, Michael Vick, Pennsylvania
I need every friend I can get

# 15: 2:41 pm PDT, Sep 4, Alex Robertson Textor, New York
As a former San Franciscan, I have always been deeply impressed by social justice leader Van Jones. The right-wing media's attempts to bring him down are shameful and unfortunate. Let's focus on the remarkable contributions he can make to the greening of our economy, not the fact that he once considered himself to be a Communist.

# 14: 2:40 pm PDT, Sep 4, Van Jones, Washington D.C.
In a statement issued Thursday evening Jones said of “the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever.

# 13: 2:38 pm PDT, Sep 4, George Bush, Washington D.C.
Don't mess with Texas

# 12: 2:37 pm PDT, Sep 4, Jorgen Vos, California
Van is a great supporter of our market economy. Fear is the only thing holding back our next wave of evolution.

# 11: 2:37 pm PDT, Sep 4, Haywood Jablowme, Texas
Anyone who does not agree with him is a racist!

# 10: 2:35 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ben Dover, California
Kill whitey!

# 9: 2:34 pm PDT, Sep 4, Deborah Drysdale, California
Don't let this right-wing assault on Van Jones keep him from the essential work he is doing. Our country needs Van!

# 8: 2:31 pm PDT, Sep 4, Name not displayed, California
I spank it!

# 7: 2:25 pm PDT, Sep 4, Dick Gozinya, Colorado
If we can't have someone representing the communist conspiracy theorist whack job contingent then we have some real problems.

# 6: 2:24 pm PDT, Sep 4, Dixie Normus, Texas
He soooo hansome

# 5: 2:19 pm PDT, Sep 4, Ward Churchill, Colorado
For more impact, personalize your support!

# 4: 2:16 pm PDT, Sep 4, Name not displayed, Florida
You know calling everyone who wants to make positive social changes a communist is really getting old. I support Van Jones and will be buying multiple copies of his book "Green Collar Economy".

# 3: 2:14 pm PDT, Sep 4, Mike Rochurz, New York
he is dope dawg!

# 2: 1:47 pm PDT, Sep 4, Sarah Conner-Smith, Illinois
This country needs Van Jones. His attackers are motivated by fear and hatetred and the need to pick on someone in the Obama Administration because there is no one else. Jones is a visionary and a compassionate change-maker. Our economy needs the jobs that he is working to create.

# 1: 1:29 pm PDT, Sep 4, Skip Mendler, Pennsylvania
The bullying tactics of the right must not be allowed to succeed.

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Ace has hammered Charles Johnson of the ever-decreasing in size Little Green Footballs (CJ's become completely and utter nutty, for whatever reason, post-Obama election) for his support of Van Jones...

Well, let me caution Charles Johnson about something, since he is clearly on such a jihad against what he perceives as religious-based or religion-influenced thinking.

As my friend once observed:

You can have a religion that doesn't have a God.

You cannot, however, construct a religion that doesn't include a Devil.

Think about it, CJ. Who's faith-based here? Who's letting a bit of cultism infect their logic?

It ain't me.

Just because His Satanic Majesty Glenn Beck says it, and it's echoed by his demoniacal consort Michelle Malkin, doesn't mean it's untrue.

The Prince of Lies mixes truth with lies, remember, so his lies gain credibility.

As for Van Jones? If he lasts until next Wednesday, I'll be surprised.

In today's Washington Independent, David Weigel writes

Civil War Raging in Right-Wing Blogosphere

Terrorism-Watching Conservative Blogs Split Over Accusations of Bigotry and Treason

When Johnson began blogging about Islam and terrorism after 9/11, he inspired untold other supporters of an aggressive war on terror to start their own Websites, link up, and push back against “Dhimmitude” — organizations and foreign policy decision makers that were “soft” on terrorism. Now, some of his followers have started blogs that track Johnson’s “madness,” while a video that portrays Johnson as Adolf Hitler going mad in his bunker makes the rounds.

My thoughts have always been that Islam, the religion, is in need of serious reform. That reform's been long in coming; some 8 centuries late, and there's no real signs that reform is in the works. It's still far too easy for Islamic jihadists to sway the minds of the ignorant who aren't allowed to read anything past the Koran, and must pray to a fallen meteor ensconced in Mecca five times a day.

Charles Johnson is an asshole, though, and a particularly nassty one. But enough of that: these videos, put out by Pamela Geller (of whom I have no opinion, having never read much of her stuff) are hilarious, and put CJ in proper perspective. Watch the second one at least; the first and third are good, but the second one is most telling (That's why I made it bigger ).

At about 7:34 minutes in.

Backstory: Charles Johnson is not a conservative blogger. After 9/11, he joined ranks with Republicans as a convenience, because that was the right thing to do; he did some good things, most notably dissolving Dan Rather in a vat of acid (Charles got his 15-minute fame boost from that worthy episode) and he helped define the meaning of Islamofascism for many on the right. But things started going downhill at LGF just recently: people started seeing Charles Johnson jump on the anti-religion (oh, but religion is fine; I just hate evil Creationists!) bandwagon. In his zeal to promote the religion of Science (he wants to live forever, and how else to do that unless Science creates some Magic that'll extend his life? Evil Creationists, with their anti-science anti-evolution agenda might get in the way of Science, and the clock is ticking, don't you know?)

His LGF blog is tightly controlled; you can't post a message without having an 'account', and 'accounts' are given (and maintained) only for people who slavishly agree with...Charles Johnson. Nary a contrary word, or your account is closed, and you are banned. KOS and DU run similar memes in their posting requirements; but you'd expect a more 'open' approach on our side, wouldn't you?

Of course I had that inevitable run-in with Charles, over religion. I can't abide a snotty atheist, sorry, and Charles is front-and-center atheist. I now read Gagdad Bob instead of LGF (Gagdad has perfectly denominated Charles as "Queeg", btw; expect a pshop of that concept coming soon~!).

Here's a comment someone left at LGF last December (my last day reading that rag). I copied it to a notepad, refreshed the browser window to get the permalink, and poof! Charles had deleted the comment and banned the commenter.

This is your site Charles, and you can do want you want with it. But I have been a member here a long time, and it is quite obvious the mission of this site has changed. You may have always been an Atheist/Agnostic/Flying Spaghetti Monster type of guy, but this constant barrage against believers is fairly recent. I just wonder if you would explain why? You probably have done this, I would not have seen it because I have not been coming around here anymore, you are no longer in "my five" as it were.

I remember when this site was a big deal in the conservative/pro Israel world. Now I never see references to LGF from the MSM or even conservative sites. I am sure you know better than I do that the site has suffered. You simply can not be pro Amrerica, pro Conservatism, pro Israel, and anti-believers. Doing this makes the list of potential followers quite small. Again, this is your site, but we who have been here some time notice the change. I guess I should respect you more because this is "not good for business", so you must be doing it out of real conviction. I would be interested in hearing why you take every chance to attack believers and are willing to go from a big fish in a big pond to a very small fish in a pond with no other fish.

I guess this could and maybe has become an atheist site, and maybe you will find enough of them that are conservative, I doubt it but it is possible i suppose. But to anyone who was not here during the heyday of this site, this was not the type of stuff that went on back then.

Tom 321

I haven't been back to LGF since.

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Jeff G., "Leave Obama Alone...!" "…And the little lizards all leaped and scuttled and hissed their approval…!"

h/t Dan Collins @ PW: "Glenn Beck? Charles Johnson? Hmmmmmmmmm . . ."

STACLU: "( Video) Glenn Beck Vs. Charles Johnson" (where you'll find a transcript, and more links)

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GOD vs. Science

A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, 'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'
The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.

'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'

'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'

'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes.'

'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'

The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

'Yes sir, I would.'

'So you're good...!'
'I wouldn't say that.'

'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'

The student remains silent.

'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

'Let's start again, young man. Is God good?'
'Yes,' the student says.

'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student falters. 'From God'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'
'Yes, sir.'

'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'

'Yes.'

'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'

The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'

'So who created them?'

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'

'No sir. I've never seen Him.'

'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'

'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt you’re Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes.'

'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

At the back of the room another student stands quietly for a moment before asking a question of His own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'

'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'

'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.

'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.'

'Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'

'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.'

'In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.'

'Science uses electricity and magnetism, but we have never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey??

'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.'

The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.

'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir.'

'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the professor answers. 'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'

'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'

Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

The professor sat down.

If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title: God vs. Science

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